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Welcome to the Kosher Recipes group at Multiply.com - almost.

Two groups, now, actually - there is now an additional group at Google associated with the one at Multiply. Before we continue on to either, there are a few rules that you need to read, understand and promise to respect. These are absolutely nonnegotiable, and I don't give warnings.

  1. If you wish to join the Multiply group, you will need to get an invitation from me. They're easily obtained if you have a website and I give them out liberally. This is necessary, as explained in this post on the Multiply group's blog, in which I specify the procedure for getting that invitation, because Multiply has failed to provide the owners of the groups hosted on its server with the option to moderate posts in their groups. So, I was presented with a choice of either making an effort to screen applicants, or accept that my members would be periodically harassed by anti-semitic trolls, which the Internet has in sad abundance. That is not really the sort of experience that I wished to inflict on the membership, so I took necessary action, however reluctantly.

    Part of that necessary action, in my view, was expanding my site so that there would still be a place where one could post without the need for an invitation. Unlike Multiply, Googlegroups does provide group owners with moderation as an option, so no invitation is needed to join the Googlegroup. Just sign up for that moderated group, but please remember - if you want to post any photos, you need to use the Multiply group, at least for now.

  2. Stay on topic. There are places for political discussions, but this is not one of them, no, not even if the subject is Israel and yes, I am serious. Thank you for asking.

  3. Kashrut is not subject to negotiation. Yes, there are points of dispute - what sort of washing of some edible green must one do given the presence of very small insects upon its leaves - and discussion of such points is welcome here. No, I'm not saying that all are required to adopt the absolutely most demanding interpretation, but if, for example, you are pouring cream over a veal chop or stuffing prosciutto into your kishke, while mumbling some vague excuse about the need to live in the modern age? Anybody who does that in a recipe posted to a kosher recipe group knows better. What you do elsewhere is not my concern, but here we meet for a specific purpose and when that purpose is not honored

    1. One is posting off-topic material.

    2. "Thou shalt not place a stumbling block before the blind" - One is acting to deceive the would-be observant about what constitutes observance, and this is not acceptable.

    Live and let live applies only when we are in a grey area, and some things simply are not controversial, except among the terminally argumentative. If your Reform rabbi tells you that blood pudding is kosher as long as the blood came from a free range animal that had a folk singer serenading it to sleep every night and you feel comfortable with that, I'm happy for you, but there is a fairly strong consensus reaching back through the millennia that this is not the case, and as much as some might like to pretend otherwise, I think that we all know this. Where the Law is well known and not in reasonable doubt, I will not be patient.

  4. In this group, every day is Shabbes. No matter how angry you may be, and no matter how good your reasons for that anger are, always write as if your nieces and nephews were reading this. Know that while I don't log in every day, and the trolls may be left to wander freely for longer than they should, when I do log in, they'll be gone with no discussion, no debate, no appeal and no warning, and so will be anybody who spoke in support of their trolling, even if that should mean that I will lose almost all of my membership.

    Never forget that we meet here for a religious purpose. What you write elsewhere is your own concern, and I don't generally want to know about it, but here let's keep it G rated and unconditionally civil. "Silence indicates assent" is an Anglo-Saxon tradition, not a Jewish one; you need not rebut the trolls just to avoid confessing to whatever outrageous thing of which they are accusing you. 

  5. "Judaism" for the purposes of this group is the mainstream Rabbinical variety; "Messianic Judaism" is off-topic here, not being considered Jewish for our purposes, as is anything that could not be sensibly called "Ethical Monotheism". Evangelism on behalf of other religions will not be accepted on this group.

  6. As one all of my other groups, common sense trumps any rule, but remember, as the owner of the group, I am the sole and final arbirtrer of what constitutes common sense. This is not a democracy, this is a benevolent dictatorship. If you feel that it is a mismanaged dictatorship, you are urged to create a competing group of your own.















Yes, I know, this entry page is not on the site we are headed for. While this is not ideal, it is unavoidable.

Regrettably, Multiply.com does not support the introduction of ssnb or other javascript by users, and as Webring insists on periodically merging rings and ejecting those members whose code is rendered obsolete by those mergers, ssnb is a must these days. Finding myself, as a user of both Multiply and Webring, between a rock and a hard place, I find that the only route of escape from this dilemma that comes to mind involves creating an entry page like this one, hosted on a site where I can use ssnb, and really, what could be a more suitably reliable location for such a page than a webring profile, which will always be up whenever the ring is running? If you can think of another, more fitting solution to the problem, I'd love to hear about it, as long as it doesn't involve my having to relocate my group again, because that's one thing I'm going to refuse to budge on, and understandably so, I think.

But not to worry. You are just one step from where you're trying to go. When you decide that you'd like to return to your ring, the links section on the Multiply group will take you right there, as will the ring return page clearly linked to from the main page of the Googlegroup, which one can return to from any post or page on the group by going to the top of the screen and clicking on the title of the group ("Kosher Recipes"), just as one does on any other Googlegroup. At this point, would you rather go the group at Multiply or the one at Google?



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